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Welcome to Live Industry Radio.
This is an independent version of the music industry. It is free to use, including all account types and their services. You only pay to buy tickets to live-music shows and to advertise, which is money we use to pay our Musicians.
Listening to all music is free, unlimited and uninterrupted. Musicians get paid a variable amount for their song streams each month outside the royalty system based on live-music event ticket sales and advertising sales that month on this platform, in our Pay Per Play system, which is our own version of the royalty system. Bands also receive money each month that they can spend like coupons on the products and services they need to make their Art.
This site is designed so all music industry people and fans can operate in an alternative music industry, without the need for 3rd party services or interference.
Below is a detailed account of how this site works.
We are currently working on a new version of this site that will be scalable to involve all other countries, and all other Art industries (film, literature, theater, stand-up, visual arts etc). If you have any questions or find something inconvenient or failing with this version, please write to [email protected] or contact Support through the settings of your Fan account in Action.
Thank you,
Dave (creator)
Note: Any explanatory, help, or how-to posts about Live Industry Radio on the internet must include the date and the website's version number for it in the title and at the top of the body (readily visible). This is to avoid the confusion that is lots of how-to posts that people read that are made for older versions of a site, leading to unnecessary inconvenience trying to find out how to do things. Internet creators that we find that have failed to follow this rule after warnings will be listed below.
v1.2 Beta Documentation Pending
Entertainment & Media Direct Payment Engine
How much we pay out per second of streaming each month is variable, based on ticket and advertising sales on this platform, through our custom, self-sustaining royalty system.
There's no limit to what a second of streaming can pay out each month — the more this platform grows, the more creators get paid per second their media is streamed.
The catch?
No performing rights organization (PRO) affiliated songs are allowed in any uploaded media, including films and livestream archives.
(So if you want to earn ongoing residual royalties from livestream archive plays, you can't include PRO-affiliated songs in your livestreamed show.)
If you're a PRO-affiliated musician, we'll be here waiting for you to switch to the LIR direct-payment system as your main source of income.
To every other live performer, comedian, theatrical group, creator, venue, theater, event organizer, filmmaker, entertainment service provider, retailer, fashion designer, music lover, movie lover, restaurant owner, improv group, and dance group — come on in.
This is the long-awaited solution.
This platform was made by a musician who sat in a basement for 24 years beside the furnace writing songs before crawling out to replace the entire music industry with something a little more to his liking. Here it is — please enjoy it. It's free for all to use.
(now also replaces film distribution, theater systems, and food delivery systems)
All account types are free, and all account features are free to use. Fans pay only when they purchase tickets or advertising on the platform.
Every type of media—including audio, livestream archives, films, and videos—earns the same amount per second streamed each month through our Rights Receiver Payment System (RRPS).
The value of each streamed second varies from month to month based on ticket and advertising sales. Visit the Finance section for more information.
For example: if the RRPS pool available at the end of the month is $10,000, and Rights Receivers collectively earned 1,000,000 eligible streamed seconds that month, each second streamed would be worth $0.01 for that month.
The more tickets and advertising sold through the platform, the higher this per-second value gets — there is no cap on what a second of streaming can pay.
A Fan account is the basic user account. Everyone receives one when they register, and all other accounts they create or join are connected to it.
Streaming is always free. If you'd like to support a Live Performance Group beyond what RRPS already pays them, and remove ads from the platform, you can donate a small amount per stream directly to the Rights Receivers of that group's music.
A Rights Receiver is anyone who is entitled to be paid for media streamed on the platform.
Live Performance Groups include bands, comedians, audio podcasters, spoken-word performers, theatrical groups, improv groups, dance groups, and other live performers.
A Live Performance Group can mark one uploaded song as its "Single" track, so it can be played instantly anywhere the group appears on the platform — including event listings and chats.
Service Group accounts are intended for businesses and organizations that provide products or services needed by live performers when those products or services are not provided free of charge through the platform.
Manufacturer and Retailer Group accounts are intended for businesses that sell products needed by live performers and independent creators.
Host, Live Performance Group, Service Group, Video/Film Production Group, and Manufacturer/Retailer Group accounts can each invite people into their organization to help with administrative duties or for honorary purposes.
A Rights Receiver List is a reusable list of Rights Receivers, accounts, and their usual percentages. It provides an easier way to create a Rights Proposal.
In addition to Rights Receivers, who earn ongoing RRPS income for their share of a media's eligible streamed seconds, accounts can credit people for one-off contributions to a song, livestream archive, or film/video — without assigning them any ongoing royalty share.
Because media earns money for each second streamed, uploaded media can be divided into sections called Performance Windows. The uploader creates these windows as part of the upload and rights-allocation process.
Imagine that six Live Performance Groups appear in a livestreamed show: two bands, two comedians, and two improv groups.
Site creator, Dave Thomson:
"WORKING HARD AT A SKILL OR STUDY, PERHAPS IN ISOLATION, PERHAPS INVOLVING HAND-EYE COORDINATION, OVER A PROLONGED PERIOD OF TIME MAY BE A HEIGHTENED FORM OF MEDITATION AND PATHWAY TO A HIGHER LEVEL OF MENTALITY. PERHAPS THIS LEVEL OF MENTALITY ACQUIRED FROM THE LONG TERM PURSUIT OF A SKILL OR STUDY ALLOWS YOU TO PERCEIVE YOUR TRUE ROLE/JOB WITHIN THE PLIGHT OF HUMANITY. PERHAPS YOU SHOULD PURSUE YOUR CHOSEN SKILL OR STUDY REGARDLESS OF CURRENT REWARDS OR RECOGNITION FOR IT SO YOU CAN ACQUIRE A HIGHER LEVEL OF MENTALITY AND LEARN YOUR TRUE ROLE WITHIN HUMANITY, FOR THE BENEFIT OF HUMANITY. I WILL TRY TO ASSIST YOU WITH THIS THROUGH THIS PLATFORM AND OTHER INITIATIVES I HAVE PLANNED.
I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE REALIZE THAT PEOPLE MOST LIKELY ARE NOT ACTING PURPOSEFULLY WHEN THE DO WRONG ACTIONS OR MAKE ERRORS. WE LEARNED THIS AFTER BURNING PEOPLE TO DEATH FOR 300 YEARS FOR ACTING LIKE A WITCH: PEOPLE DID WRONG ACTIONS OR ERRORS, DESPITE KNOWING THEY WOULD GET BURNED TO DEATH FOR IT, SO OBVIOUSLY THEY DID NOT DO THESE WRONG ACTIONS OR ERRORS ON PURPOSE. SO PEOPLE TODAY ARE ALSO MOST LIKELY NOT DOING WRONG ACTIONS OR ERRORS ON PURPOSE.
HOWEVER, CURRENTLY, EVERY SYSTEM WE OPERATE UNDER HAS INGRAINED IN THEM THE POSSIBILITY OF WRONG ACTIONS AND ERRORS. IT IS ODD THAT WE DO NOT REVISE OR REPLACE OUR SYSTEMS TO REMOVE THE POSSIBILITY OF WRONG ACTIONS OR ERRORS (CONSIDERING WE SPENT 300 YEARS BURNING PEOPLE TO DEATH FOR ACTIONS THEY OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T DO ON PURPOSE). IF A SYSTEM ALLOWS FOR WRONG ACTIONS OR ERRORS, THEN IT IS TO BE BLAMED, AND NOT THE INDIVIDUAL WHO COMMITTED IT. A SYSTEM THAT ALLOWS FOR WRONG ACTIONS OR ERRORS MUST BE REVISED OR REPLACED TO REMOVE THE POSSIBILITY OF THE WRONG ACTION OR ERROR FROM HAPPENING AGAIN."
Live Industry Radio Policies
General Policies
All personal and sensitive information collected by Live Industry Radio and its LIR Host Door app will not be shared with third parties. It will only be used for dedicated website and app services, and their improvement. Live Industry Radio and its LIR Host Door app will never publicly disclose any personal or sensitive user data related to financial or payment activities, as per our Terms of Use.
We use cookies to improve your Live Industry Radio experience. Data collected by Live Industry Radio cookies will not be shared with 3rd parties, nor will it be used in any way by Live Industry Radio outside of our website's dedicated services and its improvement.
Ticket Policies
Ticket Refund Policies: Ticket sales for both types of events are final, but if a Critical Change happens to an event, some tickets may become available for refund. These rules affect both event types:
1) If a band is dropped by the Host or cancels, all tickets purchased after that band originally joined the event become refundable. Tickets purchased before the band joined remain final sale. New tickets purchased after the cancellation are also final sale unless another qualifying change occurs. Live Industry Radio reserves the right to postpone the ticket money transfer to Hosts (which normally happens on the 7th day after the event) and apply other protective measures for the benefit of Fans, as per our Terms of Use.
2) If a Host changes the Public Event date, or the location of the event, or postpones the event (temporarily removes the event date), then all previously bought tickets are made available for refund. Tickets bought after the event change will be final sale per usual (not be available for refund), unless another similar change occurs. Tickets available for refund can be refunded at any time prior to the event, and for six days after the event (if not scanned at the event to access the event), up until the ticket sales money is transferred to the Host on the seventh day after the event. Tickets that are available for refund can still be used to access the event normally (you can still use tickets to go to the event even though they are available for refund). If the event is cancelled, then all tickets are refunded automatically. Updates via email will be sent to all ticket buyers after any changes to an event are made that renders tickets available for refund, such as a band cancel, location change or date change. An email will also be sent to ticket buyers when new Bands are added to the event (which does not make any tickets refundable).
Host Policies
A free 'Host' account is available for anybody who runs a live-music venue or does live-music event planning etc. Once acquired, a Host account can create Public Events, which are live-music events, and can sell tickets to them.
To protect Fans from scalpers and corporate ticket scams, the following policies are currently in place regarding Host Public Events and their tickets:
When a Public Event is created by a Host, after the first Live Industry Radio Band joins the 'Band Roster' (i.e., after a Band is accepted by the Host to play the event), the ticket prices and number of available tickets for the event can no longer be changed. If you see Host Public Event tickets on sale on Live Industry Radio, there is at least one Live Industry Radio band booked to play the gig, and the ticket prices and the number of tickets available are final (cannot ever be changed). Hosts need at least one Band on a Public Event's Band Roster before the Public Event can start selling tickets on this platform. If all bands are removed from an event by the Host or cancels from the event, the Host Public Event can no longer sell tickets.
All Host Public Events hosted through Live Industry Radio must strictly be No Cash events. Cash cannot be accepted at the door for people without tickets. People without tickets must buy their tickets either through their Live Industry Radio account prior to the event, or through the LIR Host Door app (ticket scanning mobile app) when at the door of the event. This is because Ticket Surcharge money from every ticket sold funds payments to Musicians for their song streams. This allows Fans like yourself to listen to all of their tunes for free on this site, unlimited and uninterrupted. Ticket Surcharge money can only be entered into our system to pay our Musicians for their song streams if all tickets are paid for with a card, either through our site or through our ticket scanning app at the door of the event. Hosts who violate this rule are abusing our system at the expense of our Musicians, and warnings and penalties may apply as per our Terms of Use. Please take a picture and report Hosts accepting cash at the door of their Host Public Event. You can report Hosts through the Host's public account page. We may also frequent Host Public Events to check setups, either officially or incognito.
All Host Public Events must have controlled entrances in which tickets are scanned for entry. Allowing people to enter into a Host Public Event without a ticket is a violation of our Terms of Use, and warnings and penalties may apply. Even if the event is free, if the event is hosted through Live Industry Radio people must still pay the Ticket Surcharge amount (and the transaction fee and taxes) to get into the event.
Fans can only purchase tickets once per event, with a maximum of 15 tickets per purchase, and credit cards can only be used once per event. While possibly inconvenient, this is how we discourage scalping. Fans may receive a token of appreciation at major "Live Industry Radio Network" festivals and events (this is Live Industry Radio's Host account) for matching their ticket(s) with an ID at the entrance. This would also be valid for everyone arriving in a group, and the person who bought the group's tickets is in the group, with an ID with the same name as that on the tickets.
Live Industry Radio is free to everybody, and you can stream as many songs as you like. However, some of us are pretty passionate about our music, and like to support our favorite musicians in any way possible. That is why we offer the option to Donate to your Subscribed Bands, which means for every song you listen to in your Playlist (which is composed of all your Subscribed Band’s music), you give the musicians who wrote the Song half a cent. This money goes directly to the musicians. The royalty system currently would give them 9 percent of a cent, so Donating represents over a 500 percent increase in income. Once you start Donating, we remove all ads from the site for you in appreciation!
If you decide to Donate, you must first submit a deposit of $50. You are then charged at the end of the month for the number of songs you listened to. If your card fails, we remove the money from your deposit. You can find the Donation section in the Action modal, under your Fan account.
If you need Bands to play at your event, or have an Event that features live music, apply for a Host account. Then you can make an Event that Fans can find on the Map, and buy tickets to. If you need Bands to play at your Event, your Event will be available on the Map for Bands to find as well, and apply to play at! You can sell tickets and have your Event automatically advertised on the Map, and in every public Scheduler of Bands that you’ve booked to play. Your Event can also be seen on the Public Scheduler of Fans that you’ve sold tickets to.
We encourage EVERYBODY to create a Host account, and start making Host Public Events. Start booking bands and selling tickets to your Event, because we apply a small surcharge on the tickets sold, which is money that get split evenly between all the Bands to be used for products and services that allow them to make their music. Book some Bands and sell tickets for your weekend back-40 BBQ, or your kids next house party! (Please make sure you read our EULA before creating a Host Public Event).
Since nobody appreciates scalpers, we limit the amount of ticket sales per transaction to 15, we only allow one transaction per credit card per event, and we print the name of the Fan who bought the tickets on the tickets. We encourage Hosts to ask to see the buying Fan’s ID with every group entering your event, and threaten to turn away those who do not have matching ID. Eventually, we can all help make scalping a thing of the past.
Once you have a Host account, you can create Host Public Events. Fans can search for Host Public Events on the Map, using date, type, and genre filters. They can also buy tickets for them through the Map, or through the Public Schedulers of Bands booked to play at the gig, or through the Public Schedulers of Fans who have bought tickets for your gig.
We apply a ticket surcharge on every ticket sold, that is used to pay for the site’s expenses. What is left over is split evenly between all the bands, to be spent on the products and services of industry related companies who have an account with us.
The Rights Receiver Payment System (RRSP) involves taking all of the generated Advertising income, and possibly some of the Ticket Surcharge money (a surcharge we add to every ticket sold through Live Industry Radio), and dividing it by the total number of Song plays on the site. The resulting number is how much each Song gets Per Play. This happens at the end of every month. So in one month, if there’s 1 million Song Plays, and $10 000 in Advertising/Ticket Surcharge money, then each song would receive one cent. This money goes to the Musicians that are listed as Rights Receivers (royalty receivers), according to the percentage they are to receive.
You can head to the Finance department to see what the previous Rights Receiver Payment System amount was, and to check out this month’s numbers. It’s found in the drop down menu at the right of the top toolbar.
We are currently striving for half a cent Per Play, which would represent a 500 percent increase in revenue for musicians from the current royalty system. However, achieving this goal is largely dependent on the amount of tickets sold, and the amount of advertising that happens, so lets all make an effort to get this site happening :)
Live Industry Radio is a platform designed to help musicians earn alternative income outside of the traditional music industry. We use a custom royalty system that pays artists monthly based on platform revenue from ticket sales and advertising. See "How it Works" and "Finance" for details.
To maximize artist payouts, we are running through our own CDN (Content Delivery Network). A CDN is like a distribution system for digital content, similar to how physical products are distributed through warehouses and local delivery. Example description:
When you purchase a garden rake in Vancouver that is manufactured in Toronto, a single rake is not sent all the way from Toronto to your house.
The garden rake factory ships lots of rakes to warehouses in different areas, so that when people order a rake, it comes from that closer warehouse, quickly and reliably.
A CDN works the same, just with data. Data is pre-sent to servers in different areas, so people close by to the remote servers (nodes) can get it quickly and reliably.
Our CDN infrastructure will scale with our geographic expansion. Before launching in a new country, we will deploy a CDN node in that region’s headquarters.
If you are interested in any of our goals please let us know by writing to [email protected].
On behalf of Art, thank you for your interest.
Live Industry Radio
This Finance section tracks the current month’s platform revenue, costs, and stream totals so musicians can anticipate how much each song stream will be worth at the end of the month.
At the end of each month, Live Industry Radio calculates the total payout pool as:
(Ticket Surcharge Revenue + Advertising Revenue – Operational Costs)
That amount is then divided according to the platform’s two systems:
The value per stream is variable each month and depends on total ticket sales, advertising revenue, operational costs, and total platform streams for that month.
For complete details on the Rights Receiver Payment System and Band Bonus systems, please review the current documentation.
Please write to [email protected] to join the competition or for any questions. Please read the "How to sign you or your band up" section below before you write.
UPDATE - The entry to this competition is now going to happen during the 'TORONTO ARTIST FUND, SPOT 1 GRILL AND EVENT HALL' on Sunday afternoons at Spot 1 in Brampton, which will happen every Sunday @ 2pm (STARTING DATE TBD).
If you would like to be a part of the Battle of the Bands competition, play a set in the 'TORONTO ARTIST FUND, SPOT 1 GRILL AND EVENT HALL' show, and we will send your audio/video files from 3 of your songs played during your set to remote judges for ajudication. The 'Finalist' monthly shows will be dedicated solely to winners of any weekly Battle of the Bands submissions and will likely be filmed on a weekend at night. Please read below for all info.
Submitting songs to our Battle of the Bands competition show is optional and can only be done through a Toronto Artist Fund show. The 3 songs submitted to the judges will be from your live set (filmed and recorded).
Create a free account, and search your event in the MAP to buy tickets or check out the bands playing.
Or do a search for 'Live Industry Radio Network' and go to their profile page, open their 'Show Booked Gigs' calendar and find the event in there.
You can vote at all shows by attending in person, and can also vote online during the streamed Finalist shows. Voting will affect some of a band's score, so please come in person to their 'Entry Level' recording to support your bands.
The reason we need a recording is because we will be setting up a 'Band' account for you on our platform deadindustryradio.com (using generic passwords so you can later acquire it), and using your recording as your band's 'Single', which can be played from the event listing (and wherever else your band is seen on the site). See below for more detail.
Please write to [email protected]
Please include in your email:
Equipment list (updated Sat Mar 29 2025):
"I'm very excited to be the host of Live Industry Radio's first ever season of the Battle of the Bands. This show will document our website's coming of age, so make sure you play this gig, but also I'm hoping to meet a lot of bands that would be interested in playing at our upcoming festivals."